Vidding

Feb. 6th, 2003 06:21 pm
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*looks at the list of things to write in LJ*
*chooses one randomly, or maybe not that randomly, but still*

Okay, vidding. What to say about vidding? I like doing it :) It drives me crazy sometimes (actually, most of the time), but crazy in a *good* way.


No one ever taught me how to vid. I just sat down one day, installed Premiere, and started playing with it. Oh, I read a lot first, read [livejournal.com profile] bonibaru’s essay on vidding, files on the vidder group and a whole bunch of other stuff. I also watched a *lot* of songvids (but not nearly enough yet). But other than that, there was no real "tutorial". Just people pointing me towards the right software and a bunny hopping around in my head :) And the real shocking thing is, something actually came out.

All this is just to say that I have *no* idea whether this is the "right" way to vid (if there is such a thing). This is just *my* way (and now I have Frank Sinatra in my head...)

I start off with the song choice, and really, that’s the most difficult part. Finding a good song to vid. I don’t work well with repetitive, monotonous songs, or with songs with a chorus (okay, the chorus part I can deal with, somewhat, but it actually demands more of you in terms of keeping some sort of pattern). I love songs that have *no* chorus, *no* repetitions, and a changing rhythm that gives me different moods to work with. I also have a special place in my heart for the instrumental parts in a song. They give me wings and let me do whatever I feel like (keeping to the mood, of course), while the lyrics part sometimes contradict the mood of the instrumentals, and makes it extremely hard to find something to fit.

The next part, the part where you actually *vid* is, to me, kind of fuzzy. Some people, more organized than me (and also more *patient*) take the time to plot out the entire vid. Some even write down the lengths of each section of the music, then the length of each clip they intend to use. I applaud them, and I’d give my left arm (not the right one, that one I use to move the mouse ;) ) to be like them. That’s professional. That’s organized. But that’s just not me.

Me, I don’t plot. Sure, I have a general idea of what I want to do with the vid. I sometimes even know what clips I’m going to use where. For example, in Bohemian Rhapsody, I kind of knew what I wanted to do with the very beginning, the opera part, and the instrumental parts in the very end. But that’s about all the planning I do. Those were the parts that drew themselves in my brain the moment the darn bunny started hopping around. Other than that general idea, though, I usually don’t plan. At all.

I’m an intuitive type. I’m the kind of person who answers questions with "I just *knew*" or "I had this feeling". I once told [livejournal.com profile] bonibaru that I "sensed some sort of style in her vidding", but I couldn’t put my finger on what it was (and boy, she must be *so* frustrated with that comment ;) ). It takes me a long time to rationalize things that to me come instinctively. So when I sit down to vid, it somehow just comes out. Maybe after I’ve madne 30+ vids I’ll be able to explain exactly *how* I do it. Right now, it’s just a big blur. I sit down and "feel" the song, and "feel" what clips work for it, and just put it together. Like magic! But not *g*

Seriously, though. The vids that I rationalized were all shelved. I thought they sucked big time. So yeah, I guess I just have to accept my "method" and move on *g*

Obviously, there comes a moment in the process where I have to rely on more than my intuition. So I rely on betas ;) In my case, [livejournal.com profile] bonibaru is usually the person I run to when I get stuck (and even when I’m not stuck). She knows how to deal with my insecurity and my desperation :) I feel I must give her more credit than just beta’ing, though, because in many ways, she makes the vid *with* me.

Take Bohemian Rhapsody, for instance. After I put down the parts that I’d imagined, I sent it over to Boni (and practically went crazy with expectation afterwards... First vid, people!) Of a 5 minute song, I had vidded less than half of it. Boni gave me these amazing ideas to work with in the blank spots, and also corrected a few "beginning vidder" mistakes (like POV and other stuff). I sometimes wonder if that’s cheating. Or if that’s what people call "collaborative vidding". Either way, I feel that Boni should have a bigger credit, especially where this particular vid is concerned. Or is that what beta’s usually do? I dunno.

So yeah, betas are my salvation. There were very few vids that I made without any help ("Good Riddance" and "Basket Case", basically). I should probably send Boni roses or something ;)

[Aside: I have *no* writing method, do I? Damn. I write like I vid, whatever pops into my head and seems to fit. It’s a wonder that anyone actually gets it. My writing *and* my vidding :-P]

What else? I don’t use transitions much. Sometimes they feel right, most of the times they don’t. I don’t remember ever using anything other than fades and dissolves, but that’s probably because I’m a wuss and won’t risk anything else. Actually, I just love hard cuts. They seem to work well with the songs I choose to vid, marking the rhythm and the changes.


There are so many things I want to work on in the future. I want to make more *art*. Be braver and bolder. Less technical. Use the "slow" feature to bring out specific clips in the songs (instead of just using it so that the clip fits a specific part of the song), using different effects, stuff like that. Keeping a color theme or a camera theme *on purpose*, instead of unintentionally. The thing is, I’m too afraid of making a mistake, of people not liking something I made (and my very rational mind is now reminding me that this has probably already happened, but still).

I’m a strange person. I don’t like taking chances. I don’t like losing, erring, making a fool or myself. Most shy people are like that, I think. Shyness is just a way of not letting yourself be open to criticism. I practically *cried* the first time Social Services took my baby in The Sims. I just don’t like people (even virtual people, like the Social Services lady in The Sims) telling me that I haven’t done a good job. It’s scary being like this, *knowing* that I’m like this, and at the same time not being especially able to change it.

Then again, I *am* changing it, in a way. By writing here, and posting my vids. See? Fandom makes you grow as a person! :)

on 2003-02-06 05:39 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] boniblithe.livejournal.com
I loevd reading all your thoughts, and thinking about my own process, which is kind of like yours - I start with a song, think of kinda what I want to say, then go clip hunting, dragging things around the timeline until they *feel* right. Then I annoy people on AIM for hours until it feels right to someone other than just me. And off it goes.

I take absolutely no credit for BR. You did that all by your lonesome - I just pointed out one place where Lex could swagger to the beat and you ran with that :)

I need you to help me with this new Lex vid, and you aren't online *pouts* LOLOL.

on 2003-02-11 11:08 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] maricats.livejournal.com
I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who vids like this... I keep looking at [livejournal.com profile] jmtorres's vidding scripts and feeling so bad about my total lack of process :P But see, if you vid the same way I do, and your stuff is as good as it is, then I guess I'm on the right track! Or, at least, *one* of the right tracks ;)

And you did *much* more than point out the swagger!Lex bit :P You're a great beta *g*

I'll be online sometime around March... Always remember not to live in the middle of NOWHERE. I'm lucky for even having a phone line :P

How's the Lex vid coming along?

on 2003-02-07 05:37 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] ex-marcasit.livejournal.com
Thanks for sharing your process, Mariana! I think I get a little too secluded when I make a vid but it just works best for me that way for some reason. I get that way with writing as well, unless it's a really long story and then I ask for help. I'm an odd duck. *g*

It's strange, because I'm a rather shy person, too, but I've been taking a lot of risks with vidding and writing as well, like, here it is, like it or not, it's what I felt like doing. Maybe it's the whole anonymity aspect of netdom. Interesting stuff to think about. Great entry!

on 2003-02-11 11:41 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] maricats.livejournal.com
Nah... I don't think you're an odd duck. There are probably dozens of people out there who vid in a more secluded way. I'm just not very confident yet, but this might change with time...

And yes, I *do* think it's in part the anonymity of netdom... There's also the fact that people don't usually have a preconcieved notion of your personality. You start off with a clean slate and build from there, whereas in real life, people start judging you the moment they put their eyes on you. I don't know... Just thinking out loud here, and probably incoherently :)

on 2003-02-07 07:26 am (UTC)
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There are so many things I want to work on in the future. I want to make more *art*. Be braver and bolder. Less technical. Use the "slow" feature to bring out specific clips in the songs (instead of just using it so that the clip fits a specific part of the song), using different effects, stuff like that. Keeping a color theme or a camera theme *on purpose*, instead of unintentionally. The thing is, I’m too afraid of making a mistake, of people not liking something I made (and my very rational mind is now reminding me that this has probably already happened, but still).


Yes, I want to make art, too, and it *is* art. Sometimes it's crayons; sometimes it's graphite; sometimes it's oils. But you won't be painting in oil until you learn how to draw in crayon. If you get my drift. The way I tackled this same desire, including the fear of publicly screwing up (which, of course, I do on a regular basis), was to make *one* vid that used all sorts of effects and transitions and weirdness. It served two purposes--to teach me to be comfortable with the transitions/effects palette, and to be okay with a failure, so to speak.

So, I'm thinking out loud in the comments section of your LJ. :)


on 2003-02-11 11:47 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] maricats.livejournal.com
I catch your drift :) I just wanted to figure out if I'm in crayons or in oil ;) It's hard to see evolution, at least for me.

And I like your idea, making a "catharsis" vid of sorts. I did that to some extent the moment I made my first humorous vid. It was a big leap for me, because I'm very shy and not necessarily funny, so I had no idea if people would "get" the vid. Just a baby step, but still. I might take a few more leaps in the future :)

So, I'm thinking out loud in the comments section of your LJ. :)

Feel free :) I love this kind of comment...

on 2003-02-07 12:44 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] tacks.livejournal.com
Ah man, you make me want to make videos! But, sadly for my own ideas, I reeeally can't get into vidding; aside from the fact I don't have any of the stuff, jumping into that coupled with the writing fanfic...I'd never get any college work done! Bad, bad zoot.
Oh, but the way you describe it...you obviously really do make them. That's so wonderful to read. I mean, you have actual plot ideas, there are themes, story, meaning - you don't just slap a load of nice shots together with a song you like. You create.
I guess that's why they turn out so well! :D

on 2003-02-11 11:51 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] maricats.livejournal.com
Ah man, you make me want to make videos!

So go make them! What's that "college" thing you speak of? ;)

Or, you could give people your plot bunny, and someone can make the vid for you *g*

Oh, but the way you describe it...you obviously really do make them. That's so wonderful to read. I mean, you have actual plot ideas, there are themes, story, meaning - you don't just slap a load of nice shots together with a song you like. You create.

Hee. Yup, at least I *try*. Sometimes it *feels* like I just slap a load of nice shots together -- those vids I usually shelve. Sometimes a vid starts out like that, but then morph into something entirely different. Those things have a life of their own, sometimes!

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