First time fics...
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maristu"Love is the answer, but while you are waiting for the answer, sex raises some pretty good questions." -Woody Allen
As promised, here's the post on what I like and don't like about first time fics. Granted, I haven't read many --I haven't read that much fanfic *at all*-- but in the ones that I read, there were basically three points that bugged the heck out of me:
Clark and Lex are friends. They discover they have feelings for each other, kiss, make out, and wind up having wild passionate sex -- all in the span of five minutes.
I won't make sweeping generalizations and say that this *never* happens, but *most* people's first time doesn't work like that. There's a period in between the kissing and the sex that span from a few days to *years*. Losing your virginity, no matter if you're a guy or a girl, straight or gay, is usually a Big Deal(tm). It's scary as hell, and messes with your mind. And, you know, this is *Clark*. The guy who hasn't even kissed anyone unless when induced by mutant flowers/handshakes/red kryptonite (or Chloe kissing *him* in 8th grade). I have a hard time seeing him coming to terms with the fact that he's a big gay alien and in love with his best friend, a guy that his father *hates*, in such a small period of time. Let alone having sex.
Even though it's Clark's first time (and possibly Lex's first time with a guy), they do *everything*. Four times. All night long. And they both know exactly what to do, and they do it well.
First off, the "do everything" part. Like![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
rhiannonhero said, I think that just the virginity aspect should be enough. Leather, food, even the dirty talk sometimes (I can take a few expletives, but sometimes it just gets to be too much), seem a bit overwhelming for a first time. From my experience, first times are usually pretty simple *g*
As for the stamina, I understand that teenaged boys have an incredibly high sex drive, but sometimes people go overboard. Even porn actors must have to rest at some point... And, you know, it usually hurts. I can go with the idea that Clark won't be harmed, but what about Lex? So yeah, the energizer bunny routine sometimes gets on my nerves...
And the fact that it all goes so smoothly, always, no choking, gagging, hurting, sticking your foot in your partner's face by accident, leg cramps, *anything*. Okay, it's not supposed to be a comedy of errors, but I've never heard of *one* first time where everything ran smoothly. Not even the planned ones. *Especially* not the planned ones :) Laughing is usually a part of first times. Either that or crying. I prefer laughing *g*
After the sex, life goes on as usual. Clark goes home (or stays at Lex's, because he obviously doesn't have parents who wonder where he is) and is still the exact same person he was before (which is usually remarkably mature).
Okay, so this isn't really a big nitpick. Most fics stop at the post-sex cuddling, anyway. But to me, the thing that makes a first time fic different from every other fic is the psychological aspect of it. What goes on in their heads before, during and after. The "after" usually gets neglected, and that's the most fun (from the psychological POV. Otherwise, I actually think that the "during" part is the most fun ;) ) You know, the feeling that you're a different person than you were two hours ago. The feeling that everybody else is acting like virgins *g* The big goofy smile on your face whenever you remember the fact that you're not a virgin anymore. I like that part. I don't mind if you don't put it in, but I always feel happy when I see the aftermath... And it's shown the way I remember it :)
So, that's pretty much it. I'm not a big fan of PWP for first times. First times deserve a plot. If you want to write PWP, with kinks and multiple orgasms and all the stuff I mentioned above, that's fine. I like those too :) I just think they should be in an established relationship fic.
The only first time fic I've read so far that fit all my criteria isrhiannonhero's Constellations. Go on, read it (if you haven't already). You won't be sorry :)
As promised, here's the post on what I like and don't like about first time fics. Granted, I haven't read many --I haven't read that much fanfic *at all*-- but in the ones that I read, there were basically three points that bugged the heck out of me:
Clark and Lex are friends. They discover they have feelings for each other, kiss, make out, and wind up having wild passionate sex -- all in the span of five minutes.
I won't make sweeping generalizations and say that this *never* happens, but *most* people's first time doesn't work like that. There's a period in between the kissing and the sex that span from a few days to *years*. Losing your virginity, no matter if you're a guy or a girl, straight or gay, is usually a Big Deal(tm). It's scary as hell, and messes with your mind. And, you know, this is *Clark*. The guy who hasn't even kissed anyone unless when induced by mutant flowers/handshakes/red kryptonite (or Chloe kissing *him* in 8th grade). I have a hard time seeing him coming to terms with the fact that he's a big gay alien and in love with his best friend, a guy that his father *hates*, in such a small period of time. Let alone having sex.
Even though it's Clark's first time (and possibly Lex's first time with a guy), they do *everything*. Four times. All night long. And they both know exactly what to do, and they do it well.
First off, the "do everything" part. Like
rhiannonhero said, I think that just the virginity aspect should be enough. Leather, food, even the dirty talk sometimes (I can take a few expletives, but sometimes it just gets to be too much), seem a bit overwhelming for a first time. From my experience, first times are usually pretty simple *g*As for the stamina, I understand that teenaged boys have an incredibly high sex drive, but sometimes people go overboard. Even porn actors must have to rest at some point... And, you know, it usually hurts. I can go with the idea that Clark won't be harmed, but what about Lex? So yeah, the energizer bunny routine sometimes gets on my nerves...
And the fact that it all goes so smoothly, always, no choking, gagging, hurting, sticking your foot in your partner's face by accident, leg cramps, *anything*. Okay, it's not supposed to be a comedy of errors, but I've never heard of *one* first time where everything ran smoothly. Not even the planned ones. *Especially* not the planned ones :) Laughing is usually a part of first times. Either that or crying. I prefer laughing *g*
After the sex, life goes on as usual. Clark goes home (or stays at Lex's, because he obviously doesn't have parents who wonder where he is) and is still the exact same person he was before (which is usually remarkably mature).
Okay, so this isn't really a big nitpick. Most fics stop at the post-sex cuddling, anyway. But to me, the thing that makes a first time fic different from every other fic is the psychological aspect of it. What goes on in their heads before, during and after. The "after" usually gets neglected, and that's the most fun (from the psychological POV. Otherwise, I actually think that the "during" part is the most fun ;) ) You know, the feeling that you're a different person than you were two hours ago. The feeling that everybody else is acting like virgins *g* The big goofy smile on your face whenever you remember the fact that you're not a virgin anymore. I like that part. I don't mind if you don't put it in, but I always feel happy when I see the aftermath... And it's shown the way I remember it :)
So, that's pretty much it. I'm not a big fan of PWP for first times. First times deserve a plot. If you want to write PWP, with kinks and multiple orgasms and all the stuff I mentioned above, that's fine. I like those too :) I just think they should be in an established relationship fic.
The only first time fic I've read so far that fit all my criteria is
rhiannonhero's Constellations. Go on, read it (if you haven't already). You won't be sorry :)
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on 2002-11-12 10:17 pm (UTC)no subject
on 2002-11-13 05:35 am (UTC)first times
on 2002-11-13 05:20 am (UTC)Re: first times
on 2002-11-13 05:36 am (UTC)Re: first times
on 2002-11-13 06:25 am (UTC)Re: first times
on 2002-11-13 05:26 pm (UTC)Didn't know you wrote too, soappocrates! Everyone's so multi-talented around here... I should take up tap-dancing or something :P
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on 2002-11-13 07:40 am (UTC)no subject
on 2002-11-13 05:29 pm (UTC)So, when are you gonna write the rest? Huh? I gather they still had two more days on the island? ;)